Trottie: Hey folks, welcome once again to the Team TaylorMade podcast, coming to you from our tour truck equivalent of the Butler Cabin at Augusta. Host Chris Trott here, tour director and clubs serviceman to the stars. This week's guest, like many of our crew, needs little intro. Currently fifth in the Official World Golf Ranking, Jonnie Rahm, my friend, welcome to the podcast.
Rahm: Thank you. How are you doing?
Trottie: I'm good, mate. I'm good. So, fifth in the Official World Golf Rank, you've had it lower. How's that feel for you? Is that the index that is of all measurements? Is that the one you go off?
Rahm: No, no. I always say your world ranking is the consequence of good play. My goal is to play good, win as many tournaments as I can and the world ranking will be a consequence of how I do. If you play good, you might go higher. If you play poorly, you'll probably go lower. I'm more focused on the year to year, tournament to tournament type feel. I'm not just looking at the world ranking trying to be as high as possible all the time. Obviously, that's a goal, but like I said, it's a consequence of good play.
Trottie: You moved up these world rankings so quickly. It was insane. It's cool when you do your research for times when I get to sit down with you like this and you see a huge jump, huge jump, win, jump, jump. Was that a surprise to you in any way?
Rahm: Yeah. What a lot of people don't know, I turned pro in summer of 2016 with my goal of maybe being in the top 10 in the world possibly within two years, but at first, I'm like, "Let me get my tour card." I got my tour card then I started playing good and got that win at Torrey, which got me in the top 40, kept playing good in big tournaments, and after finishing top 10 in Colonial in less than a year, I got into the top 10. That was extremely quick. I never thought that was going to happen that quickly. I quickly had to adjust, because I started playing poorly, because I had accomplished such a big thing so quickly. And I had to adjust and before the end of the year, my goal was to finish within the top five, which I was able to do and finish in the top four by the end of the year. My first full professional year-
Trottie: So, you're resetting goals all the time though?
Rahm: Yeah. I learned quickly. I started doing goal setting in 2014, and if you accomplish too much, too fast, and I know Rory spoken upon that before, sometimes when you accomplish it, you have nothing, your brain just doesn't have... You don't have anything to work for, right? You've already done what you set yourself up to do. Sometimes you need to set yourself new goals and that's what happened to me that year. I got to the top 10, immediately after that, I missed the cut at Memorial and the U.S. open, played poorly in summer. And came to playoffs, I reset all those goals, and like I said, I wanted to win again and finish the year within the top five. I was able to win in Dubai and that's what got me into the top five in the world.
Trottie: Rookies, it's a big deal now. You listen to what you're saying and it's unbelievable and we just pass over it. But rookies and how quickly they come out, it's insane. With Morikawa and Wolff here, if they were in this room now or listening, what would you say to help them become... Well, I guess you don't want them to get better, but what would you say again?
Rahm: No, we all want the competition to be as strong as possible. That makes us better. At least, I do. It's hard to know because each person is very different to the other. What helps me might not help them. What I always say, that I learned really quickly is, "You need to pace yourself." You need to set out a schedule where you're going to be able to rest properly and peak at the right time, like we all try to do, but I'll try to say, "Don't burn yourself out in tournament weeks."
I started practicing every day, playing every day at least nine holes and doing all that and I've gotten to the point where most Mondays I'm not there, Tuesday I'm going to play nine holes, Wednesdays Pro-Am, and Thursday I'm ready to go. It comes to a point where I don't stress too much about having a chip, having to hit one more putt, having to hit one more shot. Those extra couple hours of rest you may get is better for your brain, is better for your body. It's going to make you be more rested and more fit throughout the year when it comes towards the end.
Trottie: And you don't stress about hitting those extra couple of shots because you know your game's at the level?
Rahm: Yeah. There's nothing one more putt's going to do to help your swing. There's nothing one more shot is going to do to help your swing or one more putt's going to do. That's the idea. I'm not telling you to not practice at all, but I’m often a person, if I go early, I get my things done and I get a couple of drills in general done and that's it. I try to be out of the course as quick as possible.
Trottie: If we look at the record for 2019, 12 top 10 finishes on the PGA tour, the win at Zurich playing with Ryan Palmer, top five U.S. Open, top 10 at the Masters, defending the Spanish Open, becoming the fastest Spaniard to win five European Tour events. It's a solid year and you are a rock solid pick for any DraftKings Lineup. That's standing out to me. If you're a DraftKings guy, Jon Rahm is super consistent. When you hear those things, what's your take on the year? How do you describe that season?
Rahm: It was a really good year. It's a third year in a row, as a pro, where I'm able to win three tournaments. I won nine times worldwide in three years, which it's more than I ever thought I was going to do. The one that stands out a lot is fastest Spaniard to get to five wins.
Trottie: I'm glad you said that. Cool. I want to talk about that for sure.
Rahm: It's crazy, because Seve is such a reference for me and I think he did it in 52 starts. I remember they told me I did it on 39, I believe.
Rahm: I had a chance to do it in Wentworth at 37, but it's not that big of a difference. It's crazy. Anytime you get to break a record of one of your idols. I mean, it's not only Seve, Olazabal wasn't able to do it. Sergio wasn't able to do it. You have players like Quiros, Gonzolo, Miguel, none of those players were able to do that quickly. So for me to be number one in Spanish golf history, I'm going to be the fastest to five. Hopefully, somebody beats it at some point. It just really stands out to me. With that, I would say defending the Spanish Open. It's maybe not the biggest event I play all year, but it was my first defense of the tournament. And in home soil, there's always more personal pressure. It's something that for me is very emotionally a big deal.
Trottie: Does it feel... Do you put it up there with majors and WGCs to go back and play that?
Rahm: No. It's very different. Emotionally, it's just more a part of me as a Spanish golfer and representing golf to be able to defend my home's open. It's special. It's really special to me. It's not the same quality as other events, but it stands out to me just because it's personally such a special thing.
Trottie: Seve, I think, is so big in European golf. When I first started on tour, I got to spend a small amount of time. He was still coming back playing every now and again or he'd come to events. Did you spend any time with him-
Trottie: Even in your amateur days you never got?
Rahm: The only time I got to meet him, I got to shake his hand, it was the Basque Golf Federation, which is not even Spanish. We're talking about Basque now. I think I was 12 or 13, they used to have this end of the ranking gala where all the better players from that year will go there and you get a diploma, a little trophy and there'll be a whole act and presentations and all that. It was fun. Over there it was Olazabal, and Seve were there.
When we got up, you got to shake both of their hands, you get your little trophy and go for a picture. I almost skipped Seve. I didn't know who he was at that point. I was too young to realize. I went to Olazabal who gave me my diploma, I forget what it was, and I completely skipped Seve. He stopped me and he was like, "Hey, don't forget about me."-
Trottie: "Hey, wait."
Rahm: I can remember everybody being like, "What are you doing?" I'm like, "I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on." Not too long after Wisley, I learned who he was. Unfortunately, a couple of years later he passed away and I wasn't able to talk to him or pick his brain. But I can always say, I won the Madrid Amateur Championship the day he passed away. So, I was able to dedicate that to him, which for all of us, is really special. We were all a little bummed to know that a little piece of Spanish history had died that day.
Trottie: European history I think. Do you still have the photo? You and Seve and all-
Rahm: No. There wasn't a photo. We shook hands-
Trottie: And then that was that?
Rahm: And then all the champions would go to pose for a picture. They might be on it. I don't remember. It was so long ago. I didn't know anybody in my family would have ever thought I would be here at this point.
Trottie: You did.
Rahm: I always believed young enough, but I don't think at that point I still... Maybe I did and I probably said it. I've always had a huge belief in myself, but realistically I don't think many of us thought I'd be here at that point.
Trottie: That's a good transition because Tyler Brett is running this whole photo shoot for us here at the Floridian, and he's doing a stellar job. He told me a story, in preparation for this, that you and him stood on a tee box at Shelter Harbor a few years ago, it was a photo shoot a few years ago and you were fresh faced, brand new out the gate, and you stood at the back of the tee with him and you said, "Hey, I'm going to be in this commercial? That's what's happening now?" Apparently, you were quite shocked. "I'm going to be in this commercial?" Now, I see you with the crew. I remember last year when the lights are going down, you were hitting those four iron flop shots with UDIs and seven nineties were every... You just wanted to hit every club we had, every product-
Trottie: Everyone's laughing. Everyone's joking with you. You are truly a part of Team TaylorMade family now. How does that feel to go from being, "Oh, am I going to be in this?" Realization to-
Rahm: It's surreal. The first time in Indianapolis it was unexpected. I had just signed with TaylorMade. I'd just gotten my tour card, but done nothing special. I never expected to be in any of those things. I'm like, "Oh, I'm too young." My thought was, maybe Sergio was doing it at that point, Rosie, Jason Day, DJ. So, all the big names are going to be doing this, but I'm like, "Why am I here?" I was like, "I'm too..." I just started, nobody knows who I am. I think the one commercial that came out of that was a TP5X commercial, but I wasn't supposed to be in any other one, that I knew at least. I was just like, "Am I really going to be in a commercial with them? Why? I'm not on the same level, yet." It was just really mesmerizing. I'm like, "Wow, it's a really cool thing that so quickly I'm over to here." Again, it's one of those things I didn't expect so early in my career. I'd been a pro for two months.
Trottie: Yeah. We were blown away back then by your reaction to the golf ball. I mean, I can tell you now why that commercial made it through. One, I think you go on quickly and win and you become very prominent and relevant.
Rahm: I won my second start with that ball.
Trottie: That photo shoot, you literally almost seem like an aha moment that this ball's unbelievable. What is it that you like about the ball so much?
Rahm: I've heard many times people say my reactions are fake. They're completely true. We don't see any of this, any of the new material until we come to this photo shoot. Like today, with the drivers and the fairway woods and the wedges, we're all seeing all this for the first time. And that was my first time trying the TaylorMade ball even though it was out. And the biggest difference was, I was hitting shots and I joked saying, "If you can make me hit it longer and straighter, I'll put it in play." And they're like, "We might be able to do that." And I started hitting 3-woods, and there was some right-to-left wind, I started hitting some shots, and the ball I was using then was moving quite a bit off line, and I grabbed the 3-wood, they gave me a TaylorMade ball, striped it, and that thing went right through it. I mean, barely moved. I was like, "Wow."
Trottie: Just held the wind, and the shape-
Rahm: I'm like, "This is unbelievable." It's not like I'm trying to change anything. Then when it came to the driver it was the biggest thing. I like to hit it cut and being in right-to-left wind, I was kind of starting to left, maybe fading a bit and falling left. And then I started hitting it with the TP5X, and the driver, and the ball was turning left and fading back. I'm like, "This is so much better," in the sense that if I don't have to worry about the wind up until there's a significant strength, it's unbelievable. You don't have to manipulate anything for that.
Trottie: So, that was a shock moment that you then go on and put clubs in play. Talk to me about first reactions to this product, and I'm looking for honest feedback here. At the end of the day, we're going to be out on the tour with you working these products in, but when you come to a photo shoot, yeah there's a lot of energy, lot of excitement. But you must as a competitor, as a player, be thinking, "Okay, I'm going to need to do this with this club or I'm going to need to change this lie angle." Is that how the process works in your mind?
Rahm: It's hardly ever when I get a club for the first time that it's fitted perfectly, hardly ever. So, it happened today with the three wood for example, we had to adjust the loft a little bit, and he was perfect. I wasn't checking the numbers how far I was hitting it, but the ball flight was the one I wanted. With the driver, very similar thing. I've also had quite some time off, then just had a break for about a month without a club. So my swing and my speed is not quite there yet.
So even if it's fitted for me for tournament shape, right now, I can't move the club the same way. So it might be a little bit off. But the ones I was trying to hit hard on the head good were good ball flights and I'm feeling good, very excited so far. Anytime we can get a little bit more extra speed or a little bit more extra, it's a good thing. And I can say I got 122 mph swing speed after taking a long break. It doesn't usually happen. So I'm looking forward to how it's going to perform, especially the driver when I'm warmed up.
Trottie: The engineers tell us that the SIM should help with the speed as well. So you've got to be thinking there, there's got to be something in that if you can get even like game speed.
Rahm: Yeah. Some people might be really focused on hitting it further, and we all are. I do believe if you want to hit it farther you can maybe just spend a lot more time on the gym and you'll be able to hit a little further. In my case, I'm trying to hit it straighter. That's the forgiveness of the club.
Trottie: Because you feel you hit it far enough?
Rahm: I feel like I hit it far enough. And I'm working out in the gym, I get stronger and it'll go longer. So what I'm trying to do is make sure I'm hitting it straight.
Trottie: And Twist Face to that impact for you helped?
Rahm: Yeah, big time. The biggest difference for me was when I miss one off the toe. Twist Face has-
Trottie: Made it hang in there?
Rahm: Majorly helped in the sense that, a lot of times when I toe it and I'm a fader, the ball will start left and maybe even go left. It didn't have enough spin and it'll be an uncontrollable knuckle ball. With the Twist Face, that ball still has enough spin, which not only stays in the air, but sometimes it still fades. It's a ball that just stays in play. Definitely, I can tell this year I hit a straighter than anybody else, and I believe almost all the... if you look at Rory, look at DJ, look at me, I think I hit quite a bit more fairways than I did last year, and my swing hasn’t really changed. I do know the drivers, that Twist Face is helping us hit it straighter.
Trottie: Let's keep it on clubs for a minute, and I want to take an opportunity to talk about Spider X. For me personally, I traveled around the world with that club. I know I gave it to my man Adrian to take to Europe and he had it there. We had it on hand. And the thing that I loved about this, but I hated it on the same note, but I loved it through being close to a player, is you said to me early in the year, you go, "Look, I didn't put that putter in play when I was putting badly. Now I'm putting well, I'm not going to put it in play."
And then a few weeks went by and I was off the truck one time and you spoke to me about it and I thought, "Okay, there's a chance." And then I left and I came back on the truck and Wade said to me, he goes, "Hey, Jon Rahm's taking that putter, he's going to put it in." And I was like, "No way." Because I'd been following you all year, and I was gutted. But then I loved the fact that you played it. So tell me about the process of getting into the Spider X.
Rahm: Yeah. First to say is when putting, it's not easy for me to change putters. Especially if I've done well with one. I don't blame the putter, I blame myself for putting poorly. So it's hard for me to change and just blame the club. The main reason why I decided, and it's not all entirely up to Wade, one of the main reasons is because those two putters were built so similar. We made so many changes to it, it doesn't have the white line, the face is different. It's as close as can possibly be to my Spider Tour. It's just a little bit different shape.
Trottie: And you loved it, you kept coming in and say to me, "Can I see it? Can I see it?"
Rahm: Yeah, it felt really good. It's just, again, it's hard for me to pull the trigger in that sense. So the reason why I did is because of my weight and how much I lean on the putter just to pick up the ball, the neck of the putter, the lie angle, it would change without me knowing. It will vary half a degree, a degree, maybe even sometimes up to two. And that's a big difference, for the listeners that don't know. So a lot of times we go upright and I start missing everything left, and it'll be a hard time for me putting.
And I did ask Wade, I'm like, "Is there anything we can do for this to not happen?" And he said the new putter's neck was a little bit more resistant and I'm like, "Okay, let's try it out." So I brought it out. I started hitting putts with both on the putting green and during the practice run on Tuesday and the Wednesday Pro-Am, I only hit one putt with the Spider Tour. I was trying to see the other putter, the Spider X. Put it in play. I think Thursday I had my best putting around I've ever had with strokes gained. I mean, strokes gained putting was about five. It was ridiculous. Putted great that week, finished second, or third, and it was a good week putting. Putted well throughout the playoffs. And then again good in Europe, this time.
What I do remember though is, I hit one put with the Spider Tour and I putted all week with the X. We were in Medina, we go to the truck and you check the lies, Spider X hadn't changed. Spider Tour had changed a degree. I was like, "How is this possible?" Just by traveling it changed. So the main reason why I changed, performance was so similar, because they were both very similar. It was because the consistency of the lie angle, which was important for me. I can't be trying to vary my stance every week.
Trottie: I think it's one thing that's overlooked by amateurs. Loft, lie, crucial when it comes to putting.
Trottie: You're saying it there for yourself. So you touched on earlier-
Rahm: There's been many weeks where I can tell you. Memphis is a perfect example. I come from the Open, not putting well, go to the truck, get it fixed, eight under the first day. Next day, putter lies change, I can't make any putts. And it's as simple as it's not me, its the lie angle itself. Just one degree is going to make the ball come out a little bit different.
Trottie: And the trucks don't stay all week, so that's not something you can tell-
Rahm: They should. They should, I don't know why not.
Trottie: These boys should work seven days a week, shouldn't they?
Rahm: I don't know why not. Well, at least have the lie and loft machine just have it for the putter, because it's a guessing game. But I do believe it's... I mean, so many temperature changes throughout the year and so many times that that putter's been tangled with, I think you just do it. The neck was a little bit weak and easy to move. With this newer putter, hasn't changed and I've been putting good since.
Trottie: That's cool. We wrapped up season one with Keith Sbarbaro, which I know is a good friend of yours. He's the VP of Tour Operations for us. And you said earlier in this podcast how you don't quite know what you were doing at the first photo shoot. Well, I can tell you now, if ever you go back and listen to Keith's podcast, he talks about you like no other player he's ever seen before and Keith doesn't throw around compliments like that lightly.
And he said that he went and played golf... You'll remember it. He played golf with you somewhere and I think Phil Mickelson was with you and he left and he called a friend and he said to his friend, "I have just played golf with one of the top 10 players in the world and he hasn't even turned pro yet." That was what his words were about you. What do you remember from those early days of meeting Keith? I know it was very much behind closed doors. You weren't in any clubs, you weren't in any of our... But what turned you? What is his influence or TaylorMade's influence as a company or you as a tour player? What got you to be like, "I need to be with this group?"
Rahm: Well. Yeah. So I didn't play with Phil and Keith, I did a fitting with Keith and then I have played with Phil many times and Phil has said before... And I know he's bet on this, I don't know with who or how much or whatever, he did bet with players that within two years I was going to be in the top 10 in the world rankings.
Trottie: That's unreal.
Rahm: And I was still an amateur. Within that two years of that day, still being an amateur, he said I'll be in the top 10. I was still in college, it was right after PAC-12, so it was in the postseason. I had just won PAC-12, by the way, by three shots coming back the last day. And on my bag I had every brand you can imagine. I had Nike, Callaway, Titleist, tried a Wilson, Odyssey putter. I had so many different things because I was trying out everything to know.
And TaylorMade came in late. It came in, thankfully for me, but it came in late and I did a fitting with Keith, like I did with many others, and we did it at Grayhawk, on the back of the range and I didn't want to change the irons and the wedges and the putter right away, because it's a little more sensitive. But I did take every wood I had right away and said, "I'm keeping the TaylorMades." Went to regionals the week after, won by six. And my driver became significantly better. A lot, a lot better.
And what I loved about TaylorMade was the family sense of everything. How much the players are involved in everything, how much of our feedback is then included on the future clubs, and how good of a vibe we have. And I believe Keith would be a great asset to any single company that makes golf clubs. He's a great fitter, he really understands each swing. And sometimes, without even having numbers, Trackman and anything, he just see the shot and is like, "Oh, you need to change the lie angle or you need to change..." And it works. He's unique in that sense, has been doing this for so long.
And I liked his personality. He's just a cool, calm dude. Very Southern California person. So it's always a sense of security I get with him and I really get along with him as somebody that's really fun to be around and he always has a lot of good feedback. A lot, a lot of good feedback. So it's somebody I trust, I've played with a lot of times and I do love he tells me things straight up, he's not going to mess around. There's many things, a lot of things why we like all of you guys. It's a great sense of community that we all love.
Trottie: I think I can echo that. I think for any fitters that are listening, it's just his direct approach. He comes at it as a player and then he looks at it from a fitting perspective. I think that's what I like about it. You like to hit certain shots as a player and sometimes they're not the best numbers on Trackman, they changed the numbers on Trackman. But it's what you need-
Rahm: And he'll tell you if you're hitting bad shots, you're making bad swings. It'd be like you're not hitting it like usual. Many times I'm having a struggle with the swing and he'll tell me, "Hey it looks a little different. This is what it looks like." And it will help me hit it better. It's as simple as that, he knows. And the one thing he never does, he never panics no matter how bad a club might fail, he never panics and tries to find a solution. Which for me, if you're doing it in a special tournament it's quite comforting.
Trottie: It's the SoCal chill.
Trottie: Speed Injected questions, they've made it through to our second series of the podcast. So here are your Speed Injected questions.
Rahm: Oh, let me get some water.
Trottie: Yeah, get ready. They're a little different to the first one, so you'll be all right.
Trottie: Torrey Pines or Bethpage?
Rahm: Torrey Pines.
Trottie: Would you rather lead the tour in strokes gained off the tee or strokes gained putting?
Trottie: The one course you could play every day for the rest of your life?
Rahm: Pebble Beach.
Trottie: LeBron or Kawhi? Kawhi Leonard.
Rahm: Can I say Kobe Bryant.
Trottie: You could say whatever you want.
Rahm: Come on, this is just the recent rivalry that just started last year. So, I don't know.
Trottie: I got a great rivalry for you then. Messi or Ronaldo?
Rahm: Oh, depends... They're two very different players. Who I think is better? Or who do I like?
Trottie: I guess, who you think is better and then who do you like watching more?
Rahm: I think there's no discussion that Messi's better. It's just Ronaldo's work ethic is something to admire.
Trottie: Yeah. Yeah. Number of career hole in ones?
Trottie: What would you shoot lefty?
Rahm: I don't think I'll finish. Yeah, I'll definitely quit midway, not a chance.
Trottie: Favorite TV or Netflix show right now?
Rahm: Right now? Probably The Good Doctor.
Trottie: Okay. It's got in here, window or aisle seat? Hopefully neither, right? If you play well.
Rahm: They're all window in that case and aisle at the same time. But, it all depends, am I emergency exit or not?
Trottie: I guess you can pre-select that, pay a few more quid if you want it.
Rahm: If I am emergency exit, I'll get window. If not, I like the aisle, so I can stretch my legs.
Trottie: Okay. Mallet or blade putter?
Trottie: Beach or the mountains?
Trottie: And then the one shot in your career you wish you could have a Mulligan on?
Rahm: If I had to choose by choice, of just that I really... that was a good... it was a well struck shot, it's not like I regret it, it'd be the second shot on 11 of Players this year.
Rahm: I don't regret the choice, I regret rushing it towards the end.
Trottie: And that just set the scene for us. I think I remember it, but it's probably better coming from you, just set the scene for the shot.
Rahm: I think I was one back, or no tied for the lead at that point. I think I was tied for the lead on 11-
Trottie: Just out the trap. Yeah, I remember.
Rahm: I'm on the left bunkers, it's a lot of downwind and I'm trying to draw an eight iron, about 20 yards.
Trottie: There was a lot of back and forth between you and Adam, your caddy.
Rahm: Yeah, yeah. Adam has never really opposed a shot and I usually ask him... actually don't ask him, I tell him what my mind is at and I'm like, "Hey, what do you think?" And in my mind I was thinking, "Okay, you're like a seven or an eight iron." And he tells me to lay up and that kind of threw me off a little bit. I like going for it because there's 60 yards left of the pin to hit it at, and if you lay up, the shot is from a downhill lie, downwind, to up in the stock to right. And I just grabbed the eight iron and rushed it a little bit, just thinking, "Hit and hope."
Trottie: So what do you wish you'd had done? Hit the same club or hit a different shot?
Rahm: No, I wish I would have taken maybe 10 extra seconds to focus and really hit the shot. Because-
Trottie: Same club?
Rahm: Yeah. No, I chunked it. And even hitting it bad, I was a couple feet from being on the green side bunker, which is doable. There was such a big margin of error to miss. I just rushed it and at the end really focused on one shot and a target to hit it to. I just aimed right and tried to hook it. I'd just go back and... Faldo always said under pressure, "Just make everything slower." It's kind of what I wish I would have done.
Trottie: It's interesting you quote Faldo on that one. The caddy there then set his mind, you happy with that?
Trottie: I would be.
Rahm: Always, always. And I always know whether it's good or bad, Adam's going to give me his advice and it's always up to me. I'm the one who makes the last decision. I'll never blame Adam for anything. I blame myself at that point for not giving myself 10 more seconds, as simple as that. I always say for anything, he's always going to give me... he's not going to try to hurt me. He was trying to help me and I was mad at myself at that point, because man, I knew I rushed it. If I take my time and miss the shot, I miss the shot, but I didn't. I didn't follow the process and that was the part that really pissed me off.
Trottie: It's funny, because it's one of the things I feel about you. You're always very fair. You're very honest and you're very fair in everything, be it club feedback, be it in the personality that you bring to the truck and you hang out with us a lot on here, you play a lot of the computer games we have on here, and we like it. We like having you around. We like you being in the team. Thanks for coming on the podcast. Hopefully the listeners enjoy this one as much as I have.
Trottie: Guys, if you want to follow Jon on Instagram, it's @jonrahm. You can catch TaylorMade @taylormadegolf and myself @trottiegolf where I post a lot about the tour. This podcast can be found in all of the usual places, you know where to go by now, and on the website, taylormadegolf.com/podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Give us your feedback. Let us know if there's any questions you want to ask these guys next time we get them on, but until next time, thanks for listening.